The expected SRM update - facts and test, pre & post patch?

Hey all,

I will select two (maybe three) common SRM builds, drop five times (ten would've been better but can't really take the time) in each mech and post damage stats, ammo expenditure, match ping and continent. Builds selected this evening, primarily with missile hardpoints and few others to minimize ingame Q's. Five drops is minimum to eliminate flukes and player skill/bad luck variations.

Anyone want to help, post similar data (damage stat, ammo expenditure, match ping and continent). This because it is not fair to compare a North American resident with 1 digit ping to a Asia resident with 3 digit ping. Apples to apples people.

Both pre patch and post patch, so we can do our own estimation of the changes.

This is the general format we are following, per game played.
Mech build
Continent (so we know to compare whom with whom)
Damage done (only using SRM's and nothing else on the build)
Ammo count (how much spent)
Ping (per game so we see a average)

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=128&l=432bc9cf17041aef29339a0caeb7566448cf6ec6
Modules used: Advanced seismic and 360 target retention.

First test run

Pre Patch on Monday 16th June

Post SRM patch on Tuesday 17th

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=111&l=90b2876584988bf4ca2cf6a0cd104697af4972ce
Modules used: Advanced seismic and 360 target retention.

First test run

Pre patch on Monday 16th June

Post SRM patch on Tuesday 17th

I would actually like to do one for PPC's and match against other continents cause I have always felt they are only working parttime, real slackers these particles.


No build discussions please, we are testing a weapon system, not build min/max.

 

The patch is due tomorrow, right? I'm not sure I'll be able to do pre-patch runs, but I'll try.

By the way, I started to play SRM again since we met last day and you convinced me the hit detection was better than it was before. Indeed it is. Yesterday for example I dropped in my Griffin (4 SRM6s and 2 MLas), of course the map was Alpine peaks (seriously, do you do it on purpose mister matchmaker?) but I still scored 640 damage.

 

Would really appreciate the data Lan. I've been testing an SRM heavy Griffin all month just to see if I notice a difference (numbers aside). Would be nice to see semi-controlled test data

 

Thx guys, I'll start dropping in about 1-2 hours time. Likely pick is:

GRF-3M w only 4xSRM6+A.
SHD-2D2 w only 2xSRM6 and 2xSRM4.

In order to not contaminate the test with other weapons

 

I just thought of something, it would be interesting to also collect the number of missiles shot. Of course it won't take account of the accuracy, but it will decrease the influence of the game circumstances. I'm thinking about that because I play conquest a lot (and am planning to do tests with the Oxide) and if I spend some games fighting from beginning to end and deplete all my ammo, some other games I'm mostly capping and only have few fight opportunities.

 

Yeah, I already thought of that on the way home and Updated OP with ammo expenditure. Great minds...

 

Updated:

I mostly just grabbed what I had, and threw SRMs/Removed Medium Lasers/Tossed in Extra Ammo I'll start updating the Game Log Soon. I unfortunately don't have component destruction or kills, but I do have ping, damage, and total SRMs fired.

Golden Boy Build

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=93&l=3ab8231dcd04d18245f0ca5cf71d512089cc2f8a

All games: Played in North America.

Before Patch

After Patch

Catapult A1 Build

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=13&l=dd659b7f9ad227ec82e64f81e49e042b6a5eff52

All games: Played in North America

Before Patch

Note: I am in Northern California (North America), my ping is generally 90ish or lower, but I'll post my average per match. If I get a chance/remember, I may have screenshots if you would like, but I feel as if that wont have any extra info.

 

As long as we have;

Damage done (only using SRM's and nothing else on the build)
Ammo count (how much spent)
Ping (per game so we see a average)
Continent (so we know to compare whom with whom)

I think we're good, without screenshots. Any opinions otherwise? Improvements from anyone?

 

Sounds good. I dropped a few times before I checked this. I'll post ammo counts on the final 7 of ten games for the Golden boy, I'll do the full data from the other games.

 

I had a few 750+ DMG games with my ASRM18 Griffon last night. I have been playing it a lot since the last patch though so I have a bit of practice. I am thinking 4 tons of ammo is not enough.

 

I would add kills to the record of data, not as useful, but it could give you and idea of how accurate the placement of missile are on specific components. I might HIT with all of my missiles, but it might not be where I want them to

A good example is trying to hit an exposed side torso, kills (or even component destruction) might give a good estimate if you are able to target specific components very well.

 

Two first games played, rather crazy results. Included kills, map, time played and primary opponents.

5 kills with a SRMHawk.

 

Shadowhawk testing, done.

Starting Griffin.

 

Done with both Catapult and Golden Boy. I may play another 5 or so with each to get more data, as some games were quick deaths. Taking a break for lunch right now.

 

Doesn't matter that much if the game was a quick death as long as we have data on ammo spent and damage done. The other data is extra really and helps define the statistical sample. I fucked up now myself as I died suddenly and have no idea of the amount of ammo I had spent, didn't have a good count so have to replay this one.

 

Alright, sounds good. If I can get extra games, I'll add extra info for fun. I probably will when the update comes. I know what you mean by not noticing the ammo spent. I have become slightly obsessive in counting rounds fired/checking my ammo whenever I get a chance to.

 

Done with both, now, we need to repeat this tomorrow.

I did the Shadowhawk first tonight, tomorrow I'll start with that one again so I eliminate any flukes from "getting warm to the playstyle". If that is the case, then the two data sets will be similar at least since I'll have done the Griffin second both times.

 

Considering the only SRM6+A build i've used since the stat reset is my Griffin-1N and it is the only build I've used for that griffin since the stat reset, i'm going to use the hard stats to compare pre-patch and post-patch. Of course, it is a little skewed because of the most recent patch sorta helping SRMs, but I haven't had very many games in it for 2 weeks, so I think it will still be an accurate comparison after tomorrow.

Mech'_Matches Played_Wins_Losses_Ratio__Kills_Deaths_Ratio_Damage Done_XP Earned_Time Played
GRF-1N______33_______17___16____1.06____39____21___1.85____18,900_____32,000____3:12:29

Weapon___Matches____Fired____Hit____Accuracy___Time Equip.___Damage
SRM6+A_____33______10,734__5,713____53.22%_____3:12:29_____11,788

I'm going to attempt to get my matches up to 50 tonight.

 

A solution could be to record the games. Though I'm not sure how much different recording tools can affect hit-reg, FPS and everything. Personally I have Shadowplay constantly running on background so it won't change anything, that's what I'll use to keep ammo count.

 

Yeah, I thought about that but as I was running the tests I spent time in a public chat room on SweC Mumble to keep me company and I didn't want to have them feeling taped...

Too bad though because that Canyon game in the Shadowhawk was epic. I was down below 20% health and still had weapons, ammo and full mobility. Only two locations had armor. hear: