Ironchoirs: Ironclad Hangar

Thread in 'Off Topic Discussion' started by Ironchoir, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. The Verge

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    I was thinking more of a LAM than a mech, but that's because of Starscream :D

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    I've been re watching waaay to much Transformers. And most of the Transformers are Humanioid, not Chicken walkers.

    But I do agree with you, the rear jointed legs are the most like landing gears, in a sense. least movement to deploy, and least movement to cause forward motion.
    The thing is, the curved design would have to make a comeback, in order to make the mech more humanoid. Which might not be what Chattaha is looking for.
     
  2. Ironchoir

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    that's what I am talking about. Yes ,I am a big fan of Meca as it applies to All types of transformers and Gundams. The models usually are alot more complex and I have done alot them too, but are the most complex with hands, feet and certain humanistic qualities! Think I could do something like that!
     
  3. Ironchoir

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    A10-Assault Mech. Decided to bring the wings back as fixed adding pulse canons! :rolleyes:
     
  4. The Verge

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    ah, you finished it!
     
  5. Ironchoir

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    hehehehe I am back! New stuff new year Sorry, been busy! :p
     
  6. Ironchoir

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    Large AC you choose, don't care! So where would you like to go from here!
     
  7. The Verge

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    so, where do the shells eject from on this cannon?
     
  8. Ironchoir

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    The Ejector Port is mounted in the inside of the weapon facing either side of the mech. The belt is optional! :phear:
     
  9. The Verge

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    who want's shells hitting their mech when they fire their cannon? not that anyone would know, but I never like AR-15 shells hitting me when I go shooting with friends. Perhaps they should eject out the other side, or the bottom of the weapon.
     
  10. Ironchoir

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    yes good point! The shell eject downward but yes that can easily be fixed! o_O :rofl:
     
  11. Excalibaard

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    I don't have any knowledge of artistic or technical skill, but I had an idea for a while:

    It would be awesome to have a large autocannon with a 'magazine' (around 7 shells?) that is loaded from the top, which then kinda 'falls through' to the next round every time it fires a shell. Almost sounds like a weird version of an AC20 now I think of it, probably due to the 7 shells and it being large. when the magazine is depleted it falls to the floor and the mech can load a new one with a hand or getting a new magazine from his shoulder or something (move the gun up to shoulder, click in, go).

    From a real world perspective it sounds a bit crazy I presume, but it should be clunky enough for some kind of pseudo-steampunk mechs?

    tl;dr could you make this for me please no reason but putting my mind at ease ok thanks bye
     
  12. The Verge

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    SS, I think you mean something like this
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_anti-tank_rifle

    This thing was actually good at the begining of WW2, due to thin armor on the tanks at the time.

    The japanese actually developed their own AC, used mainly in aircraft. it never worked very well, since you couldn't stop it's fire cycle once started, but when it did, it would lay down plenty of fire.

    [img width=625 height=450]http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/sons-of-guns-japanese-auto-cannon-pictures1.jpg[/img]

    [img width=700 height=521]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/HMS_Dido_gun.jpg[/img]
    America had some of the best autocannons on their battleships, a 20mm with a 20 round magazine.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano-Suiza_HS.404
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm

    most AC of the time were either 20mm, but could be up to 88mm. Today, many tanks use Autoloaders instead of Autocannons, due to the separation of propellant and projectile. This lets you us a larger caliber gun in a more confined space

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IjgndIFhgU

    but many tanks also use a carousel magazine to save space within tanks
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jmIVC7yLU0

    the thing is, with any of these systems, the shell has to be manually removed by the loader, and pushed out of the rear of the turret. They sometimes have automatic shell ejectors, but they always have a manual backup.
     
  13. Excalibaard

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    The AT rifle on the top describes it pretty well, but imagine it with much larger, preferably explosive rounds. I still drew something bad in MS Paint with a self-discarding magazine.

    http://i.imgur.com/61ooPTa.png

    As you probably have much more experience with guns than I do (probably has to do with them being legal over there as well) it's not likely to sound plausibly viable, but hey a bit of fantasy is okay right :)
     
  14. LT Satisfactory

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    s7 the artist! Not sure what you get by having the magazine versus just having a normal belt-fed cartridge at that point (although I guess it's vertically fed which is different from the norm), but the reload idea is pretty cool.
     
  15. TheWatchman

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    I don't know if its the case in BattleTech lore, but in Warhammer 40'000, ballistic weapons used on Walkers such as Titans have a return feed for empty shell casings, to help negate shifts in C of G (Quote taken from warhammer40k wiki). The A-10 Warthog has a similar system for probably the same reason.

     
  16. Ironchoir

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    Well thanks to all your input, what your asking is really considered a rail gun! Canister fed and self contained. Load out of at least 36/48 shells. And TheWatchman, I know it well since I worked on the game as a 3d Modeler. Belt driven is a suitable choice as well but For a big mech, the belts would have to be armored re-enforced against other weapons especially PPC,Gause and other powerful long range weapons!
     
  17. Ironchoir

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    Single and dual variations. Dual has extended canister
     
  18. The Verge

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    I like it, using a Hex mag instead of a top feeder.
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  19. Ironchoir

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    ok got weapons so lets put it to a new Mech. The Bolt_Thrower a original concept. This will be an Upright,walker! :p

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  20. The Verge

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    I really like it, but where does the pilot go? because the front looks like a cow catcher.
     
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