[FEEDBACK] Patch Notes Discussion Thread - March 18, 2014

Too bad the bitcoin market is in ruins - we could put out a hit on the silk road!
[size=8pt]i kid i kid

 

Saving grace last night was all the people like me in shiny new Banshee's in some of the games. Had some truly vicious battles with only 3 LRM boats a side. Game has really changed in terms of tactics and I now love river city night and hate alpine peaks.

The night before was horrendous though.

The ECM dual PPC Cicada's are now more irritating than the LRM boats as they just showboat off solo or in their lances and leave the slow assaults with no cover. Highly effective tactic for them as they use the others for bait but frustrating for the rest of the company as the LRM's and entire enemy company rain on them. They also trash talk a lot from cover and 800m+ about how bad everyone else is...

 

Seems like things are already starting to settle down. I noticed a lot less LRM boats last night compared to patch day. There was still more than before the patch, but it was easier to deal with them. I actually got pretty good at taking the ears off Catapult LRM boats from a distance. Once they lost all their weapons and were no longer a threat I'd switch targets so they would have to sit in battle a while longer without being able to do anything.

 

Lol thats cruel. I approve!

 

Kinda like pulling the wings off a fly.

 

I'm with the good Captain on this one. I haven't actually jumped in, but from what everybody is saying it just sounds like the opposite of fun. It's not just random forum people, too, but I put a high value on your opinions in here, especially Azakael and Capt. Chattahah. I had been jumping in for a couple of matches a night just to get my double XP on my trebuchets, but since Tuesday I've felt a sinking feeling when I go to drop, so I haven't. I have other games to play right now, so I can easily give MWO some time to fix itself or to hear buzz that it isn't actually too bad. From the sounds of it PGI has gone too far and might be in danger of legitimately driving people away. Pity if that's the case as I've been very excited for the upcoming 3-3-3-3 they are implementing. :/

 

meh, I think if they toned down the velocity to 150 m/s it would be perfect. I'm not going to judge a patch with missile changes this quickly, things will change. There will be a lot less meta build in each drop after the Launch Module 3/3/3/3 (both pop-tarts AND missile boats). You won't run into 3 LRM stalkers and 2 LRM Atlas DDC after the launch module. Things are going to change dramatically, so I can let these settings fly for the next two weeks.

Even without the launch module, i'm much happier seeing more LRMs on the field. They are a huge part of MechWarrior and Battletech and frankly, before this patch they were HORRIBLE. If you thought they were too good before, it's because you put yourself in a bad situation and got caught by someone using LRMs/ Then you thought "Omg this sucks, I didn't count on someone on the other team taking LRMs because they suck so bad, but here I am dying... damnit"

Now LRMs can work without relying on someone on the opposing force screwing up their positioning. People are more aware of the threat now and adjust accordingly. Spotters are a much more useful role now and I find myself piloting lights more because there is an actual incentive too. Before this patch you didn't pilot a light mech with the intent of helping the LRMs on your team, because you could rely on them. Now LRMs are valid weapon system that CAN be relied on.

Don't get me wrong, there are some games that frustrated me in the past few days because of LRM spam, but I firmly believe that A) it will die down in the next week and B) Launch Module and 3/3/3/3 will eliminate entire teams of LRM boats because it will no longer be possible at the magnitude we are seeing.

Sure, on paper you can say that: but but but BUT... You could still have 2 stalkers 1 DDC, 3 catapults, 3 griffin/wolverines, etc and LRMs will eclipse the sun. However, I find it hard to believe drops like that will happen. If anything, most builds will now incorporate an LRM in addition to their usual mech design (albeit with some compromise). I'm OKAY with this. Infact, I welcome that mentality with open arms.

 

Well, last night my team ran some 12-mans and the LRM buff fortunately has not murdered the competitive drops. PUG'ing is just terrible. (read: unplayable and devoid of entertainment)

 

I'm 17-7 w/l pugging since the patch. My kdr is 4.33/1. I don't play LRM boats either. /shrug YMMV.

 

My KDR is 1.06 but I was pug dropping and grinding achievements. I finally got Philanthropist (12 assists 0 kills) so now it will start climbing again. I've also been grinding Stalkers LOL

 

Mmh it seems to already be calming down a bit but I can't pretend hugging cover for most of a match is particularly exciting. Some maps are still awful after two days...Alpine Peaks I'm looking at you.

Almost every match is one sided as people (including me) are running around with massive alpha or very long range weaponry so they can step out of cover, volley and step back. Interestingly lights or fast mediums are now back to being superb scouts as you're so reliant on people locating enemy mechs before they locate you. Plus all that long range weaponry tends not to help against a well played light pack.

Lance destruction is a thing of beauty with 2 banshee's, a DDC and a missile boat or scout that play together regularly.

 

But what do you play?

 

The majority of my matches were in a Shadowhawk-2H. I'm not really sure what point you were trying to make, unless you were implying I played a poptart. (I don't find that, nor LRM-boating, to be a particularly fun play style.)

In any case, I find the sky is falling talk to be premature.

 

Your conspiracy paranoia may be getting to you ... I was just interested... or maybe I'm actually stalking you. hear:

 

I finally caved and dropped into some matches early this morning. I was a bit leery, though, so I made sure to bring protection as I ran every match in my Spider-5D. The matches I dropped in didn't look so much like LRMaggeddon as they did ECMaggeddon. Wow was there a lot of ECM on the battlefield. I got a ton of countering and spotting assists and really put up some impressive c-bill numbers as I went 4-1 (6:1 KD). So, one thing that LRMaggeddon has seemed to do is make the Spider-5D a GOD amongst mechs.

 

Well not really a god but ECM is back with a vengeance as its now a survival tool.

 

Lucky timing for me, I bought the ECM spider 2 days before the patch, so I have been grinding that and the other 2 during the LRMageddon. The ECM varient excels in this environment, the other 2 or pretty ho hum but at least playable being able to hit cover and close the gap inside range.

 

I used this time to finally get a killy light mech. So I picked up the Jenny F. She does a wonderful job eating up LRM boats.

 

old but needs a bump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDmy3eBT93w

 

Fixed.
(remove the "s" in "https://..." when you copy/paste a youtube link)