AS7-D "Buttslam" This mech has been a long trial & error experiment for me that started back when founders packages went live. Its been built for a generalist role and I'm quite happy with how it plays. For the most part I keep the gauss/PPCs on group 1&2 and fire them in sync. Its the 'f-zero" barrage as my friends call it because of the orientation of the guns when fired. I've had a lot of fun building it and i'd love to hear opinions and comments on it. thanks in advance and I hope you guys enjoy this build as much as I have. =) (Scroll down for latest build)
So, now let's see about the build? First off, you are not running double heat sinks? Try switching to DHS, even without any heatsinks other then in the engine, you will be at 26% cooling efficiency. That's very close to your 27% on single heatsinks currently. Here's what it could look like, with DHS and using the tonnage for a larger engine. Also moved the CASE to the gauss rifle (the rifle counts as ammo explosion and CASE will shield) along with the ammo (crit padding as gauss ammo does not explode). AMS went into the cockpit (take a shot there and you die anyways) and the SRM into one of the legs (which I refinforced again - noone legs a Atlas at 70+ htps on the leg). Overall, it looks like a low heat build with response capability on most ranges. Why the two different CT lasers, pulse and normal?
Lan, you beat me to it. Also, I agree that his build is a direct upgrade from the one you posted. However, I will argue against his ammo placement. AMS ammo isn't very boomy, you should be able to get away with putting it in the arm with the AMS, and moving the SRM ammo to the head.
Wow, Thanks guys this is really surprising. Initially the 1MpLas was added because i'd actually run out of ideas for improvements and had that extra ton to spend. The end goal was to eventually recover another ton with DHS but I remember there being a nerf on the effects of them so I never tried it. I had thought i'd come to the end of the line here for a natural progression and upgrade but you guys have proven me wrong. I'm actually interested in this ammo placement you're all talking about though, I've not heard anything about gauss rounds exploding @ the gun. Thank you both by the way!
I should add, if you downgrade the MPLas to an MLas, you can upgrade the single SRM6 to a double SRM4.
Happy to help! Gauss ammo is not explosive, the Gauss Rifle itself is however. This is the only weapon that is the other way around. It's the capacitors that charge the magnets in the railgun thingie (BattleTech doesn't have to be 100% correct). Generally, ammo placement is very important as you must weigh expenditure rate vs hit locations vs the chance to get a ammo explosion. Cockpits are considered best (a hit there is most likely instakill after armour is gone). Legs are popular on a Atlas due to the high armour pts and the fact noone legs a Atlas. The first thing they see and shoot are torsos, right? You could drop a DHS and go for two mplas or two medium lasers. I find i need the range of medium lasers myself as not all enemies are nice enough to come offer me a hug. Getting a second SRM is not bad either, upping alpha is very good in the current metagame.
Yeah, I've noticed the design i'd been using actually lost a lot of firepower on a side torso component loss. Thanks again for tips and I think i'll be trying 2xMlas. By the way, I had a look around the forum and it seems you and I use a lot of the same tricks in our atlas =P
Got to trying your improved version of the buttslam. It is in every sense an upgrade. My friend and myself have tried different ammo configurations and we are finding that keeping the gauss ammo out of the gun seems to be more effective. I will upload my final version that has been slightly changed to my liking. Thank you again, This mech is not going back to the workshop for a very long time. =)
No problems, if you want to read more thoughts about the Atlas I have written a small guide. Might be interesting.
Geeze, that was a good read. You guys need to stop being so cool or I might start to consider coming here daily
Hey, Archwright? He thinks we are cool, he hasn't met the giants yet. I am just a MwO nut helping out a bit, fairly new myself to MechSpecs. Just a few months. It's fun to help out with builds.
Welcome to the club, Alex. There's a lot of good discussions on this site. I've drawn inspiration from plenty of builds on this site, even in 'mechs I don't pilot. The site has just recently gotten large enough that I can't read every post, but even the "bad builds" and "joke builds" add something. This site has one of the highest signal-to-noise ratio of any site I've been on.
Pretty good build. This alternative is similar to Archwright's suggestion about downgrading the MPLas to a MLas and upgrading the SRM pack: I've spread the ammo throughout the chassis and added C.A.S.E to the Gauss torso. The mix of SRM packs is purely for packaging reasons. I realise that the engine rating is a bit awkward, as it isn't a standard fit on any mech. Again, it was a packaging decision, the highest rated engine I would want to install without sacrificing too much armour.
Do you mean a few good builds in amongst a sea of bad builds or a large number of replies to each post?
I mean posts which contribute to the conversation as opposed to distracting from it or acting as padding. For instance, we never have "First!" or "Bump" posts. We have a minimum of QQ, no name-and-shame threads. I consider bad or lackluster builds as signal as well. Analyzing why a bad build is bad is just as valid as analyzing why a good build is good. (Especially when a build looks one way on paper and another way in game) Even better are threads which show how a 'mech build trends back and forth from good to bad as the metagame changes.
Agreed, I'm loving this forum hahaha. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=16&l=c4a716b859dc15c2cf5f317959d1865ae1f1333f This is the latest modification by the way, I'm enjoying the extra range and damage at the expense of a little more heat.
Thanks for explaining that. This is the first forum I've ever posted on and I think its excellent. From the detailed analysis of each and every build, to the humorous bits. Well done to all!
