JR7-D SubjectSeven's Alpha (4x MLas, 2x SRM4, AMS, XL295)

5/5,

7 ratings

Looks like an effective build, I've always used Streaks on mine. Maybe I'll give it a try.

I love your use of the word "effectivity".:wink:

 

I run a very similar build, and love it. Probably my favorite Mech these days. The major difference is that I drop a ton of ammo (200 total) and use only 2 JJs. Then I add a couple more DHS, as I prefer the heat buffer they provide. I find for most matches that 2 tons of ammo is sufficient, and in the rare case I run out, there usually are not many enemy makes left so it doesn't make a huge difference. On the Jenner's I really only use JJs for dogfight maneuveurs, so 2 is actually overkill.

Definitely one of my favorite variations on the Jenner, or any light in general.

 

When piloting a jump capable 'mech I never use less than four jets. I believe that there will be times when I will have to jump for my life, when that happens I want to be able to get somewhere. Even before the number of jumpjets determined how far you could go, I always placed at least four on the 'mech so I wouldn't have to make changes later. I've tried using less than four in the past and I really noticed a lack of maneuverability.
I wish I could come up with an effective build for the twelve jet Spider...I am going to replace the one I sold and try until I find a way to make it a killer.


Sorry if I got off track,

Mythweaver

 

I definitely appreciate the super-goddamn-fun aspect of having a bunch of JJs, but I find them (again, my personal play style!) underutilized relative to other mods that they take the space of. Except on the 5V, always 12 on the 5V!!

Bringing it back to Jenners, though, in an experienced players hands it really just comes down to preference. I prefer to use the Jenner as a more kamikaze style hull, so usually by the time I'm thinking about bugging out its waaaay to late. Perhaps the JJs would actually come in useful!

 

I really like the look of this build. I don't like SSRMs if I don't have ECM, so this would do the trick. However, I'd drop a ton of ammo and maybe half a ton off a JJ to pick up a 300 XL engine (or drop a ML and a ton of ammo and add a JJ and go to 300 XL). I like running my lights at top speed.

 

This build is similar to SubjectSeven's Jenner.
While I hadn't seen his build until joining the forum I agree with most everything he said.
I choose to do things a little different based on my playing style.
Most of the people I game with like me to target/spot and annoy the opponents with strafing runs.
This is my build for those tactics.




With this build I have dropped all but one of the jump jets.
I use the JJ to jump off cliffs more than to climb them.
The single JJ also works very well for quick turns when dog fighting.
The dual SRM4's also work very well do at firing a single volley of 8 missiles.
I like this combination because I can lead my target one time instead of the continuous lead needed for the multiple volley of the SRM6.
I have also maxed out the armor. When strafing you tend to take fire from all sides and every little bit counts.
For those that truly like to tweak their mechs to the fullest I have had very good success with the following allocations of armor.
Max'd armour on head, arms and legs (18, 24 and 32 respectively)
Side Torsos front 23
Side Torsos rear 9
Center Torso 32
Center Torso rear 12

I do not run any additional heat sinks and use the missles as well as chain fire to keep the heat down.
For firing I setup all the MLas as group 1 and cycle them.
Group 2 fires the Mlas in unison
Group 3 Fires SRM4s in unison
If you find you want to control your temp levels more you can break out the Mlas to left and right side on group 3 and 4 or you could do the same with the SRMs.

This is my favorite build to run no matter what game type I am in.
I have speed, no worries about ECM's because the missles are dumb, and have enough JJ's for dog fighting or making short hops.

 

Another merge since these are all 4x MLas + 2x SRM4 builds.

 

Awesome build, but runs a Bit hot!

Blagg

 

I run the "Newest Version" of this build (the first one in the OP)

 

I'm having trouble getting this (or any build, really) to fit and work in my JR7-D.

I have my armor stripped down, removed a JJ, have no AMS, and only a XL285 engine, and I can BARELY fit 4xMLas and 2xSRM4 (with 100-200 ammo).

Even with this, I overheat in about 2 volleys (I have a single double heatsink installed, and my total heatsinks are 11... yet I see everyone using this build only has 10).

Can someone please fill me in? So far, this mech has been an absolute, frustrating, NIGHTMARE for me.

 

Are you using endo-steel AND ferro-fibrous upgrades? As you can see in the video I run this build with 11 DHS and that was with only BASIC pilot tree stuff unlocked.

This build is difficult to use with no basic skills or anything unlocked. It really doesn't come into its own until you Master it. Then you are sort of riding the knifes edge on the heat scale but that is what separates the boys from the men, yes?

 

I don't know how familiar you are with the Mechlab and the heatscales, so let me assume it is unknown and start from the top. It is not my intention to insult you. To get to the following image, push the button labeled "Weaponlab".

You can see six sliders, they can be used to determine fire rates over time. Just leave them to the right for the moment. The mech has 51.40 in Heatcapacity. The mech will generate 5,60 heat/s, meaning you can fire for 14 seconds (including the cooldown period between the alpha strikes). The only other variable is which map and heat affects the mech.



I have not ticked the basic skill set, you can do that yourself and see the lowermost number change from 14 to 19 seconds. That is most likely the difference you are seeing between others and yourself. The basic and then elite levels do increase your ability to fire.

But most important by far is to discipline your shots and allow for that extra second of cooling every now and then. Look at the light videos in the guide section and you will see the small pauses to keep the heat down that pilots do while maneuvering.