SHD-2D2 Longmarch (1x ERPPC, 4x LRM5, TAG, BAP, 1x JJ, XL335)

Thread in 'SHD-2D2' started by blighty, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. blighty

    blighty New Member

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    Role: Spotter/Fire Support
    Recommended Modules: Advanced Sensor Range, Advanced Target Decay, Improved Air Strike
    Typical Engagement: Spot and lock, re-position
    Weaknesses: Enemy Light Mechs
    Alternate Builds: Dropping some speed/TAG and adding AMS can help you with streaky lights before getting back to friends.

    Play Notes: Essentially you will use your speed and JJ to avoid close combat, with an ERPPC for defence and long range ECM counter.

     
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  2. Lan

    Lan Mech Wrangler

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  3. blighty

    blighty New Member

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    Apologies - Didn't realise subject was enforced. Thanks for amending.
     
  4. epikt

    epikt Benefactor

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    It would be nice if the one that rated this build "one star crap" presents his arguments.
    Sure it is not the build of the year, but it's pretty ok.


    edit: I'm personally worried about poor heat dissipation. Did you tried slower engine (XL310 or XL300) and added DHS?
     
  5. Cpt Chattahah

    Cpt Chattahah Min-Max Maniac

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    I like using BAP on missile boats to increase sensor range (stacking with module) and the slight increase in lock time, however, on a mech this light, I would use the weight for Heat Sinks. With an XL320 and removing the Beagle, you can throw three more DHS in there, only losing 5kph and a slight Sensor Range decrease. The BAP lock on time is hardly worth it unless you stack with Artemis.

    I would mod as follows:



    My 2¢.

    Chatt.
     
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  6. Excalibaard

    Excalibaard 101 010 Staff Member

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    Artemis doesn't stack with BAP, as stated by PGI. BAP+Tag stacks, Art+Tag stacks, Art>Bap and doesn't stack.

    However, your variant is better still imo, ERPPC + any other non-AC5 or gauss weapon needs additional heat dissiptaion because that 15 heat is an absurd amount.
     
  7. Cpt Chattahah

    Cpt Chattahah Min-Max Maniac

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    PGI says a lot of things. ;)

    Artemis effects Streaks (which it's not supposed to) and I believe Vergere did some play testing proving that Art. and BAP stacked... Who knows! PGI can never get their story straight. :rofl:

    Either way, BAP on this light of a mech using LRMs seems like unneeded weight.
     
  8. blighty

    blighty New Member

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    Firstly, really appreciate the comments.

    I should of made it pretty clear, this isn't for solo pub. You are pure lance support that can still do damage from the hiding spots you take.

    I'll explain a little.

    IMH Heat is always an issue! So it should be too. But as this spotter it's not as critical as a front/second line mech. You do not 'rain fire' down on your enemies. I shoot the ERPPC when safe appropriate to do so (like I know they will shortly be in cover), or when I see an atlas/light providing ECM cover. First shot enables lock on, second show enables re-aquire of locks while missiles in flight (not my missiles in this situation).

    Shooting some with a erppc alerts them to your location - generally your not even firing your own LRMs unless you are about to re-position, or find it situationally beneficial.

    The ERPPC is used for ECM disabling, when you missiles are out, and deterrent to enemy lights that can stay close. PPC here couldnt be used :(

    In a real combat situation, since you are a spotter, you will be not in too much of a position to use as you want to just perform pop out .5 second locks every 3.5 seconds.

    Also, you NEED speed as a spotter.

    For more solo play, I run a streaky version.


     
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