http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=119&l=30868943bd53d44c0bac30b141becf8fda5d7cfe A lot of heat sink for better cool effect. less heat with this variant http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=119&l=5dd489878fc3e8f66489fb07689757d59101a093
And a STD 300 version http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=119&l=8520a300e09de4000f2272211ac45555792606eb
The 300 engine is by far better than 275... but than the Battlemaster is the best example of the sometimes wonky BT system... since you could build the same exact same mech on a 75T frame and have better speed...
I think i will try this build, when i got this Variant in my Mechbay. Probably i would try it with XL Engine. http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=119&l=55921b2d6c656db08800c761993fcf54c8246439
I'm giving this a low score for one big reason: One of the biggest draws of the Battlemaster is the sheer engine rating that it can pack, which gives it some incredible speeds on an incredibly durable frame. The speed that your variant has is barely faster than an Atlas, and packs significantly less punch. I think Blagg, however, has the right idea in trying the same build with an XL engine. It takes advantage of the Battlemaster's speed so that you can choose where you want to engage from and get there quickly, staying out of the main brawl, or pushing in for a kill with the medium lasers.
I'm sorry, but that is such a dumb reason to downrate a mech. Just because the chassis has the capability, doesn't mean it is suitable for the build. The dude's build is supposed to hone-in on the tri-AC/2, not the engine speed. Why would you need engine speed in a direct fire support? That aside, I also gave this mech a low rating. Not because it lacks speed, although that's part of it, it also lacks ammo and firepower. You can get the mech as cool as you want, but if you don't balance it with firepower, you're kind of hooped. An assault mech can't rely on three AC/2's, we already have the Ilya, DRG-5N, and Jagermechs for this. An assault mech needs to use that massive tonnage to load up on more weapons. Low firepower would be excusable if you gave it a giant engine and turned it into an unstoppable brawler, but that is clearly not what's happening here, therefore I give it 2/5.
Why would you not want engine speed in a direct fire support Mech? In fact, what role can you think of where having more speed is less advantageous? Faster torso twist, better accel and decel, higher top speeds, better turning radius... Direct Fire Support can take big advantages of faster speeds because if they're spotted or the enemy moves, they have the capability to relocate quickly and take advantage of another opportunity. That being said, I stand by my reasoning. I personally feel that it's useful to build to a Mech's strengths and what makes it unique, so that it brings something to the table that other, more established "Top Tier" Mechs don't already do better. The Stalker, as an example, has more total hardpoints than any of the Battlemasters, but wouldn't possibly be able to actually keep up with one. Same case for the Awesome and the Victor. I don't think it's a dumb reason at all; it's just how I build my Mechs.
You forget that engines, especially STD engines, are incredibly heavy. Having more speed is great, but whether it be at the expense of firepower, heat efficiency or ammo, it is NOT worth it in a direct fire support. I would have thought this much was obvious. Yes, you can pull off high speed builds in the Battlemaster, that does not mean a build is bad because it doesn't capitalize on it. Don't be stupid.
All right, that's the second time, Bind Mind, you've called me stupid when I've attempted to be reasonable. I'd like for that to stop. In a Direct Fire Support role, you should, in theory, not be taking as much damage as the forward brawlers or anyone else on your team. As such, going with an XL Engine to support the heavy ballistics that capitalize on long-range fire would be a good idea. The additional speed allows you to keep yourself at the ranges required and helps off-set the added vulnerability.
[REDACTED] what you are saying is so contradictory to actual logic that it baffles me. It's fine to put an XL engine in a long-range mech, but speed isn't the reason you do it. You do it so you save weight and load up on more guns and heat sinks. This is simply a fact. If you believe having more speed is better, so be it, who am I to judge you, but downrating a mech simply because it lacks it has got to be one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard. Anyway, I'm not going to respond any more. Not worth my time.
i think this is a good build, if you use a fast XL Engine. C'mon we're talking about 80kph in an Assault! No Stalker, Highlander or Atlas can run that fast. For sure, an assault mech should have more Firepower at close Range, but those triple Ballistic.Hardpoints are crying for Triple AC2s. And don't underestimate Triple AC2s - they can take you faster down than you can react. This build is designed as Long-Mid Range Firesupport, not for Brawling. 525 Bullets is not enough? WTF! How much bullets do you need?
Bindmind, Serious Table, Both of you settle down now. While you both have your own ideas for this build, including the use of an XL or not you will both keep things civil. There will be no name calling, or insulting eachother on here, if you want to do that, take it to PMs.
