New engine size leaked!

Thread in 'Locust' started by Aylek, Oct 2, 2013.

  1. Aylek

    Aylek Administrator Staff Member

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    As per Bryan via twitter, the Locust will be able to mount a 190-size engine. Prior to this the max engine was told to be 170.

    Source: Twitter
     
  2. The Verge

    The Verge Moderator Staff Member

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  3. Cyanid7

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    Ooh, this makes me drool :cool:
     
  4. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah

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    Does this give us projected speeds?
     
  5. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah

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    The XL170 took the Locust to what 151? So the XL190 should bring it all the way to the speed cap but maybe a bit beyond?
     
  6. enileph

    enileph Star Lord

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    something like that with speed tweak.
     
  7. DarkLobster

    DarkLobster Well-Known Member

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    Some quick estimates I made trying to follow the linear engine formula:

    175 - 141.8/155.9 kph, 100.31 deg/sec turn speed
    180 - 145.8/160.4 kph, 103.18 deg/sec
    185 - 149.9/164.8 kph, 106.04 deg/sec
    190 - 153.9/169.3 kph, 108.91 deg/sec

    To give a point of reference for turn speed, a Jenner with a 300 engine turns 98.27 deg/sec, which is the current maximum.
     
  8. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah

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    Thanks DB!

    Looks like they have finally broken the speed barrier. The Locust will be the fastest little bad boy out there and man that torso twist speed must be KILLER.
     
  9. DarkLobster

    DarkLobster Well-Known Member

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    No problem.

    Since you mentioned Torso Twist speed, I had a little look into that as well.

    The formula seems to be: (Engine Rating/Tonnage)*20 degrees/sec

    So for the Locust, the Torso Twist speed is simply the same as the Engine Rating, e.g. XL190 = 190 deg/sec

    For reference, the maximum twist speeds on the current lights are:
    Commando - 168 deg/sec (210 engine)
    Spider - 170 deg/sec (255 engine)
    Jenner - 171 deg/sec (300 engine)
    Raven - 168 deg/sec (295 engine)

    I referenced all the data points from Smurfy. They don't seem to include Twist Speed upgrades (there are buttons for different levels of Twist X), so presumably those numbers can be increased 20/40% with Basics/Elites. For the Locust, with a 190 engine that would mean 190/228/266 deg/sec (vs. 171/205/239 on a 300 Jenner).

    Of course, none of these numbers do justice to how this will feel in the cockpit.
     
  10. Marec

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    It's going to be interesting to see what you can do with such an incredibly tiny mech and a huge engine - not much room for anything else probably.
     
  11. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah

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    I've been working on some variant ideas in my head based on what info is available on MWOMERCS and SARNA. I'm thinking 3x SLas, 2x MLas, XL190, AMS for the 3M but it would require Endo, Ferro and most likely DHS. Essentially you are going to have to decide "Do I want speed or do I want weaponry" on this mech.
     
  12. Cpt Chattahah

    Cpt Chattahah Min-Max Maniac

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    I'm so excited for this little sucker! I'm going to get SO dizzy! :D

    XL190 weighs 6T which still leaves room for max armor and 4x MG w/ 3T ammo and an MLas or a single LL on my Phoenix.
     
  13. Aylek

    Aylek Administrator Staff Member

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    XL190, Endo & Fero, 2 extra DHS (3?), ERLL, 2 MG / 1t and maxed armor (short of 2 points?) should be possible if I got it right.
     
  14. Sassafras

    Sassafras MechSpecs Addict

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    Trying to line up shots in an ERPPC Commando running at full speed actually made me feel queasy. I don't know if I'll be able to handle this one.
     
  15. Cpt Chattahah

    Cpt Chattahah Min-Max Maniac

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    With Endo, FF, XL190 and the three additional heat sinks needed, you will have 6T free. That is with max armor (less three points to make an even ton)
     
  16. enileph

    enileph Star Lord

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    You can easily fit in a LLas or so.
    Still trying to see if a PPC is viable in some versions.
     
  17. Cpt Chattahah

    Cpt Chattahah Min-Max Maniac

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    Also;
    "Adjusted engine weight." Whaaa? Does this mean we may get an XL190 under 6T? Might we actually be able to fit some MGs with a LL and max engine without going into battle in our skivvies?
     
  18. Durant Carlyle

    Durant Carlyle Star Lord

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    Maybe they finally fixed the few engines that didn't equate to the correct weights with the 10 minimum heat sinks. Or maybe they separated the gyro and/or cockpit weight from the engine. Could be many things.

    I, for one, hope that they didn't fiddle with the tabletop weights. They mess with those and they might as well call it Generic Giant Stompy Robot Game #1099.
     
  19. Serious Table

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    So it's not a Mechwarrior game if it doesn't match certain numbers specifically?
     
  20. Solahma

    Solahma Star Lord

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    Based on the current weights and leaving 2 tons for the upgrade to a 190, this is what I'll be running on Oct. 15

    http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=50000&l=194f35bbf419141f1eaee0cc06e919c6d205bcc6
     
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