Disenchanted with the developers of MWO?

I whole-heartedly agree. This was one of the finest balance addresses I have ever witnessed by any developer. The massive alpha builds are still out there once in a while but it did a great job curbing the overpowered builds and giving a fair shake to more classes.

Chatt.

 

I think I've put more hours into this game than any other besides Counter-Strike. I've also felt the desire to fund this game more than any other as well (think I'm at $230 and I wasn't even a closed-beta founder...).

HOWEVER, I voted no because I do think there are glaring issues with the game that I don't have confidence in PGI to ever fix - and those issues are specific to how I personally would want the game to be which apparently doesn't line up with PGI's vision. Namely, complete lack of game modes, base rush in assault, ppc does pinpoint instead of splash damage, mech size being out of whack, uselessness of mediums, seismic sensor implementation, lack of active/passive radar, waiting for the zero doubt in my mind debacle of adding clan vs IS... I could go on. Even 12v12 kind of scares me and how it will massively change the game dynamic.)

If a major studio decided to fund a semi-sim robot game (ie, not Hawken) I have no doubt they'd put PGI out of business QUICK, but at this point, this game is good enough to keep playing regularly and keep buying/leveling new mechs AND is faithful enough to the great single-player mechwarrior games of yore that they still have my rapt attention. Most days.

 

Games a piece of shit, don't lie to yourself. Holy fuck, some of you...

Fact is, the IP is the only reason any of you are here.

Literally.

End of.

 

LOL, you mad bro? and if not, speak for yourself man. I enjoy the shit out of this game regardless of who makes it or what universe it is.

It's a fun game.

literally.

End of.

 

Soy, I am honestly wondering whether you are trolling or being honest with most of your statements here...

I've never really cared for Battletech, I have not played P&P RPGs or anything of the like, so the IP is just fluff to me, flavour so to speak, for all games sprung out of old rulebooks.

And I got into the game because it looked interesting and is fun to play. On top, I've met a few cool dudes to hang out with (which I sadly can't apply to everyone in the game)

Does it have flaws? Certainly so, a lot. But we are still in Beta (and refrain from any dead horse remarks) and after September 17 we can gladly argue about all the shortcomings and how much of a "piece of shit" this game is, but until then such statements such as yours do not help in the least.

You provide no suggestions for improvements, you don't point out the flaws, all you do is snarl, rant and gripe. While this might help your blood pressure, it is not helping the game nor the topic.

 

GTFOOH!!! ASAP! And go play Lego

 

I still love it. Flaws and all. So fun.

My biggest gripe isn't even a big deal! I just want more maps!

 

Amused by all the cryhard retorts, predictably.

I play this game. I've most likely got more time logged in this game than the 3 of you who replied, combined. I'd go as far as to say I'll still be playing long after you guys are gone.

It is a beta. It has no greater point beyond TDM until CW. It is balanced for casual play. There is a startling lack of variety and retention at end game / meta.

- Sadly even the exploratory aspects of this game (like, you know, building mechs) is tainted by this notion [see: bartle types] in the end or are paper placeholders (see grind mechanics inc for CW) - aka doing dick for us at the moment beyond needing 20 games under your belt to min/max your build correctly around speed tweaked engine speeds, hehe...

-Barely any social interaction is facilitated in game so that is completely superficial community driven until CW; gotta work for it on your own time (aka not in the game AKA doesn't count for the clout of the game, counts for clout of us, the community, the culture, which we all hope and pray slots nicely into CW dynamics so not to impact established relations [see clans, etc]).

- Achievements in this game are nothing; as someone who has shown in the 2 tournaments I've participated in, and placed in 1 of those in a mech that had been nerfed, I can tell you that is a vapid experience that leads to the comprehensive conclusion among all top competitive players that it is a data mine execution done by PGI in an almost sadistic manner. And K ratios and shit? My god, we need more important metrics than that for a game that is complete imba. The metrics used in CW better be better for us to achieve stuff and rank up etc, otherwise it's going to be cheesed out. Bulwarks must be in place, even if they are hand of god mechanics. I'm on a rant here, let me finish... oh and not to mention the most competitive achievements are superficial, leagues done by the communities not PGI or the game itself, single player tournies in this game are kinda ridik when you think about it, and even the leagues aren't that big of a deal. The best teams aren't even playing in them, just holding out for CW...

- Anyways, lets see, what are we left with, oh ok people who enjoy winning and nothing but winning, the great arbitrary soul crushingly common tryhard. Great, the min/maxers, cheesers, bandwagoners, and crutchers who can't quite make it up the slope and post a lot of nonsense on main forums that got me banned there of course in a relentless pursuit of troll correcting spamathons, and oh yeah - cappers. Something for everyone in this game, eh. In other words, the people who actually can get the most out of this game are people who are blind to everything except enjoying running around a map into a square and doing it frequently, or those who play base and one-dimensional min/max builds that are guided solely by meta shift [sheep, even though some of the best players are at times]. That's not very interactive for them nor is it very rewarding for the rest of us. It is telling when I have discussions with other DV8 players about builds and mechs and it invariably boomerangs away from whatever insane idea I suggest and invariably towards towards ppc+gauss combos as some sort of final be-all conclusion. Sad, and true. Things will change... cuz...

Luckily this is all in great fluctation. Why? Cuz it's a beta. A shitty beta. A shitty beta that can get a lot better, and soon, if some of the right things click into place. Such is the nature of a game launch. Don't ask me to explain what those things are cuz they don't really matter. What matters ultimately is CW giving us a persistant universe in which to develop our experiences in a much deeper and enriching manner, from a play standpoint and a social dynamic standpoint. This is where the BT IP is the crux; the entire caveat. It is compelling and, conveniently, already fleshed out and boxed up, ready to implement.

The rest of the garbage like 'balance' is a fucking joke. Hear me? A fucking joke. Case in point - CW comes, thats where everything gets real. Better bring your real toys, boys. The queue we use right now? Right now? That'll be the casual queue. Why not make it where anyone can drop, just like we do now, even in groups, but it's only trial mechs. Which are on rotation. This keeps everything (power) naturally in check. And fresh, not stale. So easy. Notice ELO wouldn't even need to exist in this situation. I would post that on main forums, but I can't. So, I won't. Doesn't matter. If they don't do stuff like that, the game is borked. I don't care about short-sighted concerns like Seismic being Lord and PPCs pooping on baddies. Only impatient people do, and I forgive them since I'm patient. But I'm also realistic...

So of course it's a piece of shit; gain a little perspective and realize the context of the phrasing is probably, no certainly, beyond your brow; get on the level. Just don't fucking lie to yourself, cuz the game would have absolutely no remarkable qualities to distinguish it beyond the IP. The crux of everything is the BT IP; without it this game is an ambiguous c-tier fps, an oubliette somewhere floatin in the net tubes to basically every single one of us. BT, MW, don't lie to yourself... it is the saving grace. Real talk.

 

*cough* not more time than meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

I'm not a Brit...

I supported the Sarah jenner thing from the start, but more importantly support Sarah, who cares about a mech

AC is a cool game, the early ones on PS1 I still play.

I never said they can't make it a complete game - I said it's incomplete and then excused that fact multiple times by saying it's just a beta and people can't see beyond that. But they also need to be real with what is in front of them. I understand the perspective if you're down in the trenches. I do. But understand where I'm coming from. Eye in the sky, k?

Michael - maybe ^^

ps - i hope ppl understand the simplicity of the notion i referred to regarding the 2 diff ways of playing this game when CW comes out, would by design create 2 diff balance pools, in which top stuff can be left untethered so to speak and run wild, rightly so, with power at full tilt, while a casual queue system like we have now would be balanced around what you are able to utilize from the start before dropping (like trial mechs on rotation), thusly keeping power in check at an arbitrarily defined, different level and not needing the types of tweaks that would keep CW/competitive top play in check and yet fully powered... and it gets rid of elo, potentially... but this is apparently too much to process or suggest or for pgi to hint at. this is the one thing i think i would suggest if i had a live mic piped into paul and bryan and russ' heads.

 

I dont know why complain here on this site about all your problems with the game. If you want to achieve something, then talk to the devs directly. Whining here about everything you dont like doesnt change anything. If you dont like the game at all then dont play it. Play something else what you find better. This is not the right place for complaints about the game. We are playing the game because it makes fun for us though its not perfect. So dont get on our nerves plz

 

It is a place to make complaints about the game, because the name of the thread is "disenchanted with the developers of MWO?"

In which I took the time to reply to you in great detail, why exactly I am not disenchanted with the developers, rather with the actual state of the game and how we as a community can interact with it in enjoyable and engaging ways.

Don't get on your nerves?... oh I'm sorry is this your group therapy session website? The hell? Maybe you should consider what I said and why I said it. Gain some perspective, for your sake.

 

You should start a Protest Campaign.. its definitely a way to achieve more. Im not saying that you talk bullshit, but imo its not really effective to make complaints on this Mech.Specs.Site where the main purpose is to talk about Mechs, Builds and related topics. Period

 

Hey man I post constructive builds all the time, I posted constructive stuff right in this very thread, sorry if I am blunt at times but you and I both know what I said was legit.

I'm not the guy who started this thread, either. Again, look at the friggin name of the thread.

I think the fact that I was highly critical of the game state also lends credibility to my obvious supporting of the game itself; I'm not white knighting here. I haz no ajenduh!

 

Let's wait and see.

 

LOL. again, speak for yourself, you have no idea the hours logged or not logged. I can damn near guarantee you i have as much time or more time invested and probably more mechs to boot.

Also, no amount of complaining, whether using 4 syllable words or larger or not just to try and sound educated on the subject, will change the fact that most everything you say is mere opinion. These things that bother you, may not bother others.

Its FREE TO PLAY! and you are still going to bitch about stuff that
EVERY game has, free or not? Please, spare us. we've all heard it before. About 3285289 times.

Also, and at the risk of getting in trouble here, if you want "truth" well here it is: Don't come at us with such a high and fuckin mighty attitude like you have all the answers and know everything and you wont be received so negatively.

NOT TO MENTION! your words lack conviction, good sir. If you truly believe everything you say then either A. you have no integrity as "you will still play long after we are gone" and yet you seem (emphasis on seem) to hate this game. or B. you just like to spend your time doing shitty things and like to come down on others for also "enjoying" shitty things. Again, no integrity.

Main point of all this: You dont have to be an asshole to get your point across.

Maybe try rereading what you wrote but direct it towards yourself as if someone else was saying it.

Ive also read many of your posts so i know that your last post here is not typically how you talk. So that would lead me to believe that you are only using your large vocabulary to overcompensate for a lack of true evidence and a solid argument. A large show of words to distract the readers from the glaring obviousness of the truth. The truth that you are vastly WRONG and have no truly compelling evidence for your argument. Why? because what you say is opinion not fact. All your issues may really be issues, but only to you. Maybe not the others users here. I cant speak for everyone and neither can you.

As you said, "gain some perspective."

 

I gained the perspective that you're a sensitive white-knight.

The fact that you 'read this as towards someone' is fucking mental. Next level projection type thing. Vergere actually hit the nail on the head at the end of his response when he noted I was deconstructing the game from a design standpoint. Not one time did I say explicitly that I have no faith in PGI or am disenchanted with the developers. Not one fucking time.

I'm not high and mighty, these are my opinions. I don't have an agenda. If you don't like them, disagree with them. You don't have to act butthurt about it. Relieve your stress some other way.

Anyways, fuck defending my position against nonfactors like you, last thing I'll say to you.

 

HAHA, the EXACT same thing could be said to you as well. And i DID disagree with you. AND posted it. YOU are also the one who started the name calling and shit. You made this bed, now lay in it. If you cant handle the heat then dont start being a dick to the users here.

It's also not being "butt-hurt" to actually say what others want to say but wont due to being reported or what not. Were you "butt-hurt" for stating your opinion? I guess so...

Maybe try learning logic and reasoning.

again, use some actual friggin evidence instead of talking out of your ass. Grow the fuck up little boy.