Phase 2 Quirk Pass: Feb. 17th

Thread in 'MechWarrior Online' started by Durandal, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. Remarius

    Remarius Star Lord

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    Though in fairness my new test setup deck has no Thunderbolts or Wolverines in it. ;)
     
  2. Durandal

    Durandal Min-Max Maniac

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    Neither does mine, really. ;) I'm still running my Raven/Firestarter/Dragon/Stalker deck, and have had great success with it. Many games I still never lose more than 1 or 2 mechs heh...
     
  3. Remarius

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    Pfft.... I usually die on all 4 while killing a quarter of the enemy... not joking.

    Would be nice to win more but i don't mind as long as I perform well.
     
  4. Remarius

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    The 6K might be being reconsidered....
     
  5. SirLinhart

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    Based on....

    Don't get my hopes up for no reason Remarius.
     
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Min-Max Maniac

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    Russ is getting a little flustered with all the outbursts about the 6K, for one ;) The new ghost heat changes came on the heels of that...so it could be reversed. Hopefully.
     
  7. Motörhead

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    To me it looks the opposite, now it would be OP if you can alpha with 3 LPL with no GH (tried it, it's really out of control), so he has a reason to change the quirks :banhappy:
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2015
  8. Flokoloko

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    @Durandal: YOU MADE MY DAY

    Hope it comes true
     
  9. Remarius

    Remarius Star Lord

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    Well they did remove from AC2 and Russ was asking for which one to try next.

    The 6K thing is seperate. ;)
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2015
  10. Remarius

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    They totally removed Ghost Heat?
     
  11. Motörhead

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    On 3 LL/ERLL/LPL, firing 4 is still like firing 4.

    The 3x LPL xl300 and 15 dhs wubverine is really a beast at the moment :thumbsup:
     
  12. Remarius

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    Lol.... makes me wonder why they think anyone will ever use ac 2's........
     
  13. SirLinhart

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    I only started playing a few weeks ago (since beta) so I'm not familiar with the most recent changes. So perhaps I'm jumping on the bandwagon of hate for no reason in regards to these wubverine changes. So here's mah questions:
    1. Based on all the cooldowns, will you be able to continually cycle the Llas without hitting ghost heat?
    2. If I understand correctly, the laser firing has to complete it's duration for cooldown begins. If that is true, then the large laser has an additional duration based cooldown time tacked onto it that cannot be diminished with cooldown bonuses. That plus the already loss of 2 damage might cause the damage drop to be quite significant.

    I liked this build because it was fun, and it was reasonably effective. I've never rolled over 700 damage in this mech, usually due to it's inherent flimsyness.

    That said, I can see why this change is being made, since there is really only wubverine design that actually works well. Having only one viable build on a mech is bad design, and I can see that this is an attempt to fix it. I can almost see a 3 las/tag/lrm15 build that could work, but it inherently gives you more "threat" from other players and is likely still weaker than the original build.

    I could see both the original build and this build be viable if the duration was reduced more. Being able to use a larger engine/more armor for a loss of 2 damage per pulse seems like a fair tradeoff.
     
  14. SirLinhart

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    Oh I didn't know they removed the ghost heat for large lasers...
     
  15. Motörhead

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    Only on 3, and firing 4 will be the same as before, so alpha won't be an option.

    If you will want to alpha 3 LL (looks like the most reasonable thing to do for minimal exposure) then you can add some close range punch.



    I don't know if I'd like to use a 4rth LLas if this heat penalty configuration stays true, you would need half second plus the burn time which is almost 2 seconds of exposure, for only 1 LL more, to not trigger the penalty.

    You can instead add 18,60 close range alpha, holding the same number of DHS and same speed.
     
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  16. SirLinhart

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    So you can either push a long range or short range build depending on what you want to do. So if the limit is 3 before then you should be able to cycle fire all 4 if you still want to. Let me see if I know how to post these:

    short range


    long range
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2015
  17. Remarius

    Remarius Star Lord

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    Welcome to MWO and Mechspecs. :)

    Change the http to https
     
  18. Remarius

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    @fx8230 Are you sure they removed ghost heat on triple LPL as I'm getting plenty of heat firing three in the 6K?
     
  19. Motörhead

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    Only ingame, not in the testing ground
     
  20. Remarius

    Remarius Star Lord

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    That's where I am. Mmh oh well will keep trying. Maybe hit reg is struggling but I'm definitely not doing as well as I expected.
     
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