[FEEDBACK] PATCH NOTES #35 - NOV 28TH 2014

Thread in 'MechWarrior Online' started by Blagg Zear, Nov 28, 2014.

  1. Jacob Ling

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    Don't be such a baby Grimm
     
  2. Cattra Kell

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    "Muh Bap" - The Argument used by bad's who don't know how to counter ECM
    "Muh ECM" - The Argument used by bad's who don't know how ECM should be used

    Only thing I see on the main forums and only thing im taking away from the patch...
     
  3. Midnite7175

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    The new BAP (prior to the last patch) only bothered those who could not adapt. Staying away from it's range still provided ECM for the Mechs up front in range of the BAP. On the other hand, every Mech was equipped with BAP after it'S buff, making it nearly impossible to provide ECM cover at midrange.

    I think this is one of the hardest things to balance in game ... BAP/ECM....
     
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  4. Remarius

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    On a side note, its interesting how many group queue teams have switched the ECM to the heavies to allow for FS9-A's or Oxides. Masks their loadouts and damage very effectively.
     
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  5. Remarius

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    Thats a baffling comment - there was no way for ECM to cope with BAP as the group simply moved a single light within 360m which is a huge area (720m across), significantly more if you used advanced sensors module. ECM simply became redundant and force composition changed to reflect that.

    The reason ECM has a resurgence is because we now have a relatively fast heavy that acn mount it and only sacrifice minimal tonnage/slots. The heavies move together and you have to deal with a web of ECM not a single one on a light/3M/DDC, while your lights are freed up for FS9A's and Oxides. For a light the wight of ECM is far more relevant.
     
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  6. Aylek

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    Considering you can't bring mixed technologies to CW this levels things out a bit. There simply aren't super powerful light mechs like those 2 on the clan side.

    I'd still love to see a mid sized ECM mech for the IS, though. Griffin 2N looks like a perfect fit in my eyes.
     
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  7. Remarius

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    Ummh Griffin is already a good chassis. ;)
     
  8. Aylek

    Aylek Administrator Staff Member

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    Yes. 2N perfectly fits the timeline, though, and isn't as offensive P2W wise as a heavy mech.
     
  9. Remarius

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    No what I meant is ... why give ECM to an already good chassis?
     
  10. Aylek

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    What I mean is it should fit the timeline, should be in a chassis available to MWO and shouldn't offend lore junkies.

    Try to find another IS chassis in the 50t - 75t range which fits these requirements AND won't cause massive legal problems for PGI and I'll happily chime in to give Russ frequent pokes about it.:sneaky:
     
  11. Remarius

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    Can't check what was not allowed as at work but 50-75 in 3050 we have:

    50-75:
    Archer
    Axman
    Black Knight
    Bombadier
    Caesar
    Cataphract
    Champion
    Crab
    Crusader
    Dervish
    Enforcer
    Flashman
    Grasshopper
    Guillotine
    Hoplite
    Ostroc
    Ostsol

    Below:
    Assassin
    Clint
    Falcon
    Firefly
    Flea
    Hatchetman
    Hermes
    Hermes II
    Hornet
    Hussar
    Javelin
    Lancelot
    Mercury
    Mongoose
    Sentinel
    Stinger
    Thorn
    Urbanmech
    Valkyrie
    Vulcan
    Wasp
    Whitworth
    Wolf Trap
    Wolf Hound
    Wyvern

    Above:
    Charger
    Crockett
    Cyclops
    Hatamoto Chi
    Imp
    Katana
    Mauler
    Shogun
    Thug
    Zeus
     
  12. Remarius

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    Whether any have ECM options who knows and I'm faily sure the Archer is verboten anyway but I included it for sentimental reasons. ;)
     
  13. Midnite7175

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    Ask and ya shall receive. I have an XLS File with all variants....
    50t
    Hunchback 5P (3060)
    Crab 30 (3062)
    55t
    Men Shen OC (3060)
    Griffin 6CS (3067)
    60t
    Anvil 8M (3060)
    Rifleman 7M (3067) - Harmony Gold
    Ostroc 4L (3067) - Harmony Gold
    65t
    Jagermech 6F (3062)
    Axman 3S (3062)
    Thunderbolt 10SE (3067)
    Thunderbolt 7SE (3067)
    Thunderbolt 9NAIS (3067)
    Crusader 7L (3067)
    70t
    Grasshopper C (3050)
    No Dachi 2K (3060)
    Avatar OE (3062)
    Cataphract 4L (3062)
    Warhammer 4L (3067) - Harmony Gold
    Archer 7L (3067) - Harmony Gold
    75t
    Penetrator 6S (3055)
    Dragon Fire 3F (3058)
    Dragon Fire 4F (3058)
    Perseus P1A (3059)
    Perseus P1D (3059)
    Thanatos 4S (3060)
    Toyama 1A (3060)
    Marauder 5L (3067) - Harmony Gold
    Marauder 5R (3067) - Harmony Gold
    Marauder 7D (3067) - Harmony Gold
    Marauder 9M (3067) - Harmony Gold
    Marauder 9S (3067) - Harmony Gold
     
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  14. Remarius

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    Ahh my beloved Penetrator... 3055... closest too but basically IS are F*cked.
     
  15. Remarius

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    Has to be pointed out I was just listing all IS mechs not in game that were available in 3050. ;)
     
  16. Midnite7175

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    I know... Like I said, I can't access sarna from the office as well, but I gathered as much info I can and consolidated the data into an xls file I use for building TRO Mech-transfers to Smurfy. (Have I ever mentioned I'm a MWO addict?)
     
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  17. Durandal

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    Speaking of mechs we don't have, there's a few that I hope make appearances...although I don't know if any of these are Unseen...and even if some are, there are a lot of mechs on the Unseen list that are actually in-game (Jenner, Wolverine, Battlemaster, and more), so...:

    Phoenix Hawk (Shin Yodama's mech is an easy hero variant)
    Hauptmann (Sarna lists this as an omnimech, but in a lot of the books, it was around before the Clan invasion?)
    Crusader (Galen Cox's variant could be a hero)
    Devastator
    Night Stalker

    I've always wanted my own Phoenix Hawk the most though ;)
     
  18. epikt

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    If I remember correctly, the unseen from Macross are unfortunately more blocked than the others.
    (I'd like a Phoenix Hawk too)
    (and a Warhammer, of course)
     
  19. Remarius

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    Interesting thought it was just me that couldn't access sarna from work but its totally blocked here.
     
  20. Remarius

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    Hauptmann was waaaaaaay later as it was in the second round of IS Omnimechs released in 3060. Its even using LB 20X's and U/AC20's, then 2 years later its using Heavy Gauss.....

    Good luck on getting that beast. ;)
     
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