Stone Rhino Incoming

https://mwomercs.com/stone-rhino

Thoughts and builds to try (fun, not meta).

SR-1
Any KDK-3 build with more energy hardpoints, two more open slots, and option for jump jets.

SR-2
Gauss-laser vomit probably.
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=364271a1_CUSTOM

2xLPL,6xMPL,2xLBX20
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=d8bb6c77_CUSTOM

SR-3
LRM120 comes to the clans with a standard engine
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=7812353b_CUSTOM
Faction play levels of ammo
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=b4816828_CUSTOM
More speed.
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=7fba33b0_CUSTOM
ATM9x6 (should be able to alpha with full skills)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=09eba636_CUSTOM


SR-4
2xUAC10, 4xUAC5
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=ec21629b_CUSTOM
1xUAC20, 2xUAC10, 2xUAC5s, 4xSRMs,4xLasers
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=fe1f7c5f_CUSTOM
4xLBX20, 2xSRM4, 2xERSL
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=e5173701_CUSTOM
4xGauss, 4xERLL/ERML
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=c4bf708c_CUSTOM
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=6cfc021d_CUSTOM
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=9d7ceece_CUSTOM
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=bc26b2c4_CUSTOM
4xLRM with 6xMG and 4xS/MPL
6xUAC2, LRM80/60, Tag
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=eaa88298_CUSTOM
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=332ea3ab_CUSTOM
6xUAC2, 2xERPPC
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=36dca52b_CUSTOM
2xGauss,2xERLL,Tag, 3xATM12
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=0d694e4c_CUSTOM

SR-6
15 Energy hardpoints and a 400 max engine size. No arm hardpoints, only upper actuators.
Energy sniper 6xERLL
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=24e0efbc_CUSTOM
Pulse brawler.

SR-KO
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=aa6ab5ff_CUSTOM
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=7096062c_CUSTOM
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=d07728f7_CUSTOM
4xMPL,2xSRM2, Tag, 4x ATM12

https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=a3143242_CUSTOM
4xATM12,4xERLL

 

Cool stuff, I was wondering if MechDB was able to do theory crafting, didn't realize you could set up custom mechs like that, nice. Interesting thoughts.

Doesn't the SR-1 just have one ballistic hardpoint in each torso? Couldn't do KDK-3 builds.

Ah, I see. The standard loadout just has 2 ballistic, but it has 4 total.

 

Here's what I'm thinking:

SR-1:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=ed1b4745_CUSTOM
(XL350, 1xUAC10, 3xUAC5, 1xERPPC, 1xJJ) Not entirely sold on this, but seems plausible. 1xUAC10, 3xUAC5 is a standard Blood Asp loadout, this should have similar hardpoints, but throw in an extra ERPPC.

SR-2:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=4a505c8e_CUSTOM
(XL335, 2xERPPC, 2xAC10, 6xSPL, 2xJJ) Hot, but should be solid. Good midrange pinpoint, ability to close and knife fight if needed.

SR-3:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=f5a5d4c7_CUSTOM
(XL350, 4xERPPC, 6xSRM2, 2xJJ) Non-meta, weird. Weird hardpoint selections. You could LRM or ATM boat it, but I like the occasional mixed SRM/PPC brawler.

SR-4
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=ef271b4a_CUSTOM
(XL325, 3xAC10, 2xERPPC, 1xJJ) Should be very solid. I have this loadout on my Dreadnaught, it was very effective. Should also be good here.

SR-6
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=5406852b_CUSTOM
(XL350, 3xERPPC, 6xSPL, 5xERuL, TC1, 3xJJ) Should be nasty solid. Similar to an Executioner build, but less mobility. Should still be good though.

SR-7
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=2aadfc42_CUSTOM
(XL375, 4xHLL, 6xSPL, 1xERuL, TC1, CLAP, 2xJJ) Another weird one, but possibly interesting and fun.

SR-KOLOSS
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=2217e40e_CUSTOM
(XL350, 2xAC20, 2xERPPC, MASC, 2xJJ) Depends on if the arm hardpoints are sucky or not. Ran this on my Seraph and it was fun - not great, but a lot of fun.

 

Lots of PPC's in there.

I like that 3xAC10 and 2xERPPC. That works pretty well on a DWF-C with S side torso's.

Some of these might still run better on the 90 tonners.

 

Oh yeah. On the SR-1, it looks like it should be able to manage a full-on 2xUAC10, 2xUAC5, 1xERPPC:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=13c3edf2_CUSTOM

 

https://mwomercs.com/news/2023/07/2762-patch-notes-142800-25july2023

Looks like quirks for the release patch are posted.

 

For our convenience and pleasure (all variants also have pretty good armor quirks):

SR-1:
Gauss Cooldown -15%, Ballistic Velocity +15%, Heat -5%.

SR-2:
Ballistic Cooldown -10%, Range +5%, Laser Duration -5%

SR-3:
Missile Range +10%, Heat -5%, ATM velocity +20%

SR-4:
Heat -5%, Velocity +15%

SR-6:
Clan ERML HSL +1

SR-7:
Cooldown -7.5%, Heat -5%, Range +5%, Laser Duration -7.5%

SR-KOLOSS:
SRM/SSRM Velocity +20%, Missile Range +10%, Spread -10%, SRM/SSRM HSL +2, Heat -5%



Commentary:

The SR-1 leans towards Gauss/Lasers, but quad GR is kinda... meh, IMHO. Maybe if you max out the cooldown on top of the quirk, the quad gauss will work. But I would be tempted to stick with a dual gauss/lasers, or 4xAC + either ERPPC or lasers build.

The SR-2, with only two ballistic hardpoints, also leans towards Gauss/lasers. My 2xAC10, 2xERPPC, 6xSPL also benefits a little from the quirks.

The SR-3 wants to tempt you into making an ATM boat. Assaults though really aren't a great platform for ATM's, which need a lot of mobility to get into good firing positions. Also the damage nerf to ATM's really hurt them. So you can make either a LRM whale, or, I still like my weird mixed ERPPC/SRM brawler. 10% range quirk stacked with 15% skill tree really helps SRM's *alot*.

The SR-4 seems to be nicely quirked towards my suggested 3xAC10, 2xERPPC build. Nice velocity quirk. Load it up with 6 autocannons, or any combination of AC/GR/ERPPC. 4 missile hardpoints is enough to work with too for either 4xLRM20, 4xSRM6, or big ATM's.

The SR-6 ERML HSL +1 seems a little lackluster. I suppose you could go big laser vomit with 2xHLL, 7xERML. You could end up being slot challenged to get it truly optimal. Might want to go with the lower slot-count LPL's. 2 or 3 LPL's, plus 7xERML. Might be able to get enough HS's to even alpha three LPL's plus the ERML's without overheating - that could have some potential.

The SR-7 with laser duration, range, and heat looks like a nice candidate for boating HLL's. I may go with my suggested build of 4xHLL, + red lasers backup. Gives you a solid (if long duration) midrange peak, and if anything closes you can fight off lights and mediums pretty nicely.

KOLOSS. that SRM +2 HSL is just too cool to not look at. You can build an uber-Scorch (2xLB20X, 6xSRM6), or you can go energy/missile with 3xERPPC, 6xSRM6. Or something completely different. Clan streaks post-damage nerf are kinda sucky, so I don't think you want to streak boat it. But lot of interesting options here.

 

Yah, might have to try that Uber-Scorch.
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=fd863b26_CUSTOM
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=929bb496_CUSTOM

Maybe with some ERLLs for early game poking.
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=d42bedaf_CUSTOM

 

Pure splaaat: https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=056f8ae6_CUSTOM 2xJJ's for short range 112 point instant pop tart splat! Plus MASC, because, you gotta put MASC on there.

 

The 6xATM9 is fun. Until you get headshot and your kill streak is ruined.

 

SR-K
2xLBX20, 6xSRM6, 3xMPL can be very fun at the right range.

Matchmaker might also be on vacation tonight.

 

Preparing for moving to new build section.

SR-K "UberScorch" (2xcLBX20, 6xcSRM6, 3xcMPL, 1xJJ, cXL350) +Alts
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=b468df28_SR-K
Alts for MASC, ERLL, LPL, more JJs.

SR-K "Masc'ed Raider" (4xcATM12, 4xcERML, 1xcTAG, 2xJJ, cAP, MASC IV, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=f6e756a8_SR-K
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=1fe9a6ac_SR-K

SR-1 "+1 Gauntlet of Pain" (1xcERPPC, 4xcAC10, 1xJJ, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=a5f050a0_SR-1

SR-1 "Feeling Pretty, Might Brawl Later" (2xcUAC10, 2xcUAC5, 7xcSPL, 1xJJ, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=d2ea798f_SR-1

SR-1 "Tracer" (2xcHAG30, 4xcERLL, 2xcUAC2, cXL305)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=a3b4904c_SR-1

SR-2 "Gauss Laser Vomit" (2xcGR, 2xcERLL, 6xcERML, TC1, 2xJJ, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=e2de8be9_SR-2

SR-3 "Standard ATM Loadout" (6xcATM9, 3xcERML, 1xcTAG, 1xJJ, cAP, STD325)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=596f45f7_SR-3

SR-3 "Crash of Rhinos" (2xcATM12, 4xcSRM6, 6xcMPL, 1xJJ, cAP, XL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=e55d0a8f_SR-3

SR-4 "Dakka" (2xcUAC10, 4xcUAC5, 1xJJ, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=0697e962_SR-4

SR-4 "Trench Gun" (4xcLBX20, 2xcSRM4, cXL325)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=a4cbfe98_SR-4
Alt: drop the missiles for more LBX ammo/engine
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=f86e5bfe_SR-4

SR-4 "Gausszilla" (4xcGR, 2xcERLL, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=f2821c49_SR-4
Low armor/speed with 4xERLL, XL280
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=a4a23412_SR-4
3xERLL, XL300
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=b8eeedd2_SR-4

SR-4 "10 Spot" (2xcUAC10, 4xcLBX10, cXL300)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=588d83e9_SR-4

SR-4 "Disruptive DPS" (3xcATM9, 6xcUAC2, 1xcTAG, cAP, cXL325)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=97c091a0_SR-4

SR-4 "Flash In The Pan" (4xcLRM20, 6xcUAC2, 1xcTAG, cXL325)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=3a1f2ab7_SR-4
Impressive dps, hot, not enough ammo for extended matches.
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=7b676b22_SR-4
4xLRM15 version is better. Easier to control the heat and more ammo.

SR-4 'HAG-gis' (4xcHAG30, 1xcERLL, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=2f569fa5_SR-4

SR-4 "Tracer" (2xcHAG30, 4xcERLL, 2xcUAC5)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=61c4f0af_SR-4
Line up for 32 damage, then drop another 92.

2xERLL with 2xUAC5 start charging HAGs,
Then unload with HAGs and other 2xERLL and tap the UACs again.

SR-6 "Medium Pulse Brawler" (14xcMPL, 2xJJ, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=be37d99b_SR-6

SR-6/7 "Death Blossom" (8xcERLL, varies)
Pick either quirks, high hardpoints, speed, or jump jets.
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=e1f2dbed_SR-7
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=8e6613bf_SR-7
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=a5a1d34e_SR-6
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=e7fad0cc_SR-6
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=725593e9_SR-6

SR-6 "100 Ton Pop-Tart" (4xcERPPC, 2xJJ, cXL400)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=e02957f6_SR-6
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=40157e56_SR-6

SR-6 "Two Timber Wolves" (4xcLPL, 10xcERML)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=b2de415d_SR-6
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=8000d64e_SR-6
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=db38a79f_SR-6

SR-6 "Max Medium Range Vomit v128" (2xcHLL, 2xcLPL, 11xcERML)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=5767dce1_SR-6S

SR-7 "Meh Lazorz" (4xcERLL, 6xcERML, TC6, 2xJJ, cAP, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=faecc07e_SR-7

SR-7 "Large Boating" (6xcERLL, 2xJJ, cXL350)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=b53d3094_SR-7





SR-7 "MOAR!!" (9xcERLL, cXL300)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=2d7900a6_SR-7
You can fire three groups of 3xERLLs with full skills and not over heat...

Spoiler

 

SR-7 "MOAR!!" (9xcERLL, cXL300)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=2d7900a6_SR-7
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=4214cd11_SR-7
You can fire three groups of 3xERLLs with full skills and not over heat...

Just what preforms need for faction play.

48 kph is not soup friendly.

Spoiler

 

SR-4 "Sufferage" (1xcHAG40, 1xcUAC20, 2xcUAC10, 2xcUAC5, XL290)

https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=8594c794_SR-4
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=c504f17e_SR-4
Is Solaris even a thing anymore?


Too slow for quick play.

 

Wow! Me likey. My attempt at a super-dakka: https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=3dbd7840_SR-1 simpler point and click, but maybe not great.

Here are a few of the builds I've been pouring over:

SR-1:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=98563b8b_SR-1 2xUAC10, 2xUAC5, 2xERPPC
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=65795341_SR-1 4xAC10, 2xERPPC (D A T A build)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=c6a01040_SR-1 4xHAG20, 2xERLL
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=f3ab3dd0_SR-1 4xGR, 2xERLL (D A T A build)

SR-2:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=451712e2_SR-2 2xGR, 4xLPL, 1xJJ (D A T A build)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=1d685336_SR-2 2xHAG30, 4xERLL, 1xJJ

SR-4:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=47a73661_SR-4 2xHAG30, 2xUAC10, 1xJJ (big semi-easy side peak)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=955493af_SR-4 3xAC10, 2xERPPC, 2xJJ

 

https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=fe4d859e_SR-1

You missed a few lasers.

https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=d4eb7d50_SR-1

 

I'm a fan of symmetry, but here we go for better weapons convergence management: right side stack those LPL's.
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=a8373d26_SR-1
fire group 1: UAC's
fire group 2 (right click): right side LPL's
fire group 3: ERML's
fire group 4: chain fire LPL's (for UAV shooting)

Those ERML's though are just going to get you in to trouble. Simplified build, better heat management, and no dangerous skimping on leg armor:
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=95516182_SR-1

 

I think your build is probably better.
Although, I am not hating the build with the 5xERML.

 

SR-1 "Poleaxe Executioner" (2xcGR, 4xcERLL, 2xcUAC10, XL300)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=19377c9e_SR-1

SR-1 "Halberd Executioner" (2xcHAG20, 4xcERLL, 2xcUAC10, XL325)
https://mwo.nav-alpha.com/mechlab?b=6a63fb96_SR-1

Spoiler

3-12
1-12
2-12
3-12
Four losses in a row, damage between 511 and 579, and all even or improving psr.
I am beginning to think that the matchmaker can not handle preformed groups...

Reworked KDK-3 build with more reach. Hot and slow, but with low heat ballistics for sustained engagements.

• CRIT CHANCE RECEIVING-20%
• HEAT-5%
• BALLISTIC VELOCITY+15%
• GAUSS RIFLE COOLDOWN-15%
• BASE ARMOR (CT)+20
• BASE ARMOR (RT)+20
• BASE ARMOR (LT)+20
• BASE ARMOR (RA)+20
• BASE ARMOR (LA)+20
• BASE ARMOR (RL)+15
• BASE ARMOR (LL)+15