Hard to get excited about this mech when at the same time a totally configurable 100 tonner with insane hardpoints and which swivels on rails is bought out. Its even a huge movement model relative to the Large of the KGC and appears a lot taller. Its performed ok so far but worse than my DWF's and WHK's. It just doesn't have the heat sinks or firepower of its competitors. The arms also seem low when you add SRM's etc to them. On the good side I like the hardpoints on a mech that has so little space and tonnage to play with. Overall, I'm a bit lost why I'd take this mech to CW when I could use a TBR with better hitboxes, heat dispation, profile, firepower and mobility. The only thing it can equal the TBR at is speed.. and it has fractionally more armour I suppose. Even a Stormcrow seems a far better deal at that speed as it saves me 25 tons drop weight. PS: Lan's post on the hitboxes is illuminating and damning. Thats one area they could have helped this mech out in but chose not to maybe because of the SCR and TBR complaints.
Exactly. The major problem of the Gargoyle (I mean, except for being ugly as fuck) is the lack of endo-steel and ferro-fibrous. The XL400 is not the best power/weight ratio to begin with, but without any upgrades to save tonnage it's just a min/max failure. Just for comparison: - the Gargoyle has 32.5 free tons for armor and equipment; - the Timberwolf (5t lighter, same speed) has 39.5 free tons for armor and equipment.
The Gargoyle has a cpl of unique features, the slim waist and the ability to turn makes it able to spread damage pretty nicely. The shoulders and arms cover pretty much all of the upper body except the head. It is a skirmish assault and can be fun in the PUG drops today given it has a bit more survivability due to armor & speed. I tooled it up with LLLAS and MLAS, racked up some 500 pts games so it's not a terribad mech IMHO. But as Rem and Epikt said, taking a Timber is just a better choice. The only time I would take the Gargoyle is if it was required specifically, not by choice. Warhawk or Timber is far better. PS: The damage transfer from groin rear to front sidetorsos indicate we will see a hitbox pass at some point, that may change our opinions eventually.
No thanks with that few DHS/space... and it forcing me to come within point blank range of King Crabs.
Weird, I could have sworn it had ferro fibrous? Yes - 2 fixed in rt/lt, 1 in la/ra/h. As soon as you add armour the gargoyle drops to 19.63 tons free with just the extra 6 DHS in the engine (16 total). Timberwolf has 27.46 free once you add armour with 5 in the engine (15 total). Thats an almost 8 ton advantage to the lighter mech.
I'm still interested to see how it functions in a large group in group-queue. CW it is useless when the TBR is clearly a better choice for less tonnage. But for group-queue still restricted to the 3/3/3/3 system, It would be a good addition of speed and more laser vomit to keep up with your deathball of Timberwolves, Hellbringers, and Stormcrows, oh my. A very niche use, probably only beneficial in a 9-12 size group as a synergetic assault choice. I like that *word*
