CDA-2A Garth Erlam Build (6xMLas, XL300)
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Thread in 'CDA-2A' started by Garth Erlam, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Garth Erlam

    Garth Erlam New Member

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    So, I waffle between 18/19 DHS, taking armour off to add one, then putting it back. Currently it stands like this. The key here is that you want to maximize your first 3-4 Alphas, because you'll be alternating firing 'arms' after that. If you're in an especially hilly map (say, Forest Colony) you can often run in, double alpha someones back, and then run back out. Once they turn away again, you'll probably only need one more alpha to do them in.

    Against lights, (this will sound weird) I tend to shoot their arms off. A lot of pilots don't fully armour their arms, and on a Jenner that means you can take one off in 1.5 alphas, meaning they've lost a lot of firepower, and you've exposed their side torso. Also, as you're taller than Lights, firing down at their arms, even if you miss, often hits their legs. Again a lot of pilots (inexplicably) low-armour their legs, meaning that you can often 'leg' an opponent very quickly, especially if they try to circle you.

    Your biggest threat will be very, very fast lights that catch you in a turn. Oddly, the best option here is often to do what I call (oh so cleverly, just you wait!) a faux-Immelman turn. Essentially you go straight, drawing them into line with your back, then abruptly stop, wheel to the left, and don't move forward. At this point they usually either slam into me (and get alpha'd to their arm/CT/ST), or they turn around me, offering me a glorious side-shot of their arm/ST/legs. Don't be afraid to abruptly brake in circle fights vs. Lights (BUT NEVER EVER HEAVIES OR ASSAULTS, EVER! EVER!) and let them 'overshoot' you.

    A useful 'tactic' is to sit back here and wait for the flanking Lights that will inevitably come for your base/LRM boats. If they have sustained virtually ANY rear damage you can often core them with a single shot from behind (try to hit a side torso if you can, as 99% of them will have XL, and that will have less armour than the CT rear).

    Anyway, try it out, let me know what you think :)
     
  2. JTBlack

    JTBlack Junior Member

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    Will try this again, since im a fan of this mech/build.

    Cheers
     
  3. SniperCzar

    SniperCzar Well-Known Member

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    With the two sneaky bastard builds Garth has posted in the small/medium classes, I don't even want to know what he does with a heavy/assault chassis. Probably something that loves to creep out and say SURPRISE like my 2xGauss+2xERPPC Cataphract or my 6xPPC Awesome...

    Incidentally, those also trade crazy heat management for insane levels of firepower.

    Someone remind me to post those up sometime after finals week/holidays :p
     
  4. Vorus

    Vorus Active Member

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    I have an XL295, instead of the 300, and one less DHS so I can fit an AMS (Which I use mostly for the benefit of those around me, as I can usually outrun missiles.) but other than that, this is essentially the same build I use, and it by far my favorite Cicada setup. If you let the Heavies and Assaults get the enemy's attention, you can do some serious damage taking off arms, legs, or against the ones who don't pay attention to you at all, you can core them in the back.
     
  5. skribs

    skribs Min-Max Maniac

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    [​IMG]So...apparently this build works...

    Too bad my team didn't.

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  6. PooHH

    PooHH Active Member

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    My favorite mech and build right here.
     
  7. don Zappo

    don Zappo Advanced Member

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    Can I give this one six stars? This is the whole reason I sold my BJ-1X. Such a good mech!

    And, by the way, this is the real reason why the max alpha is set to 6 for MLs and not anything lower...
     
  8. Banky

    Banky New Member

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    Garth's 40 tons of death... I run this grouping the left + 1CT ML and the right +1CT ML together and just fire each group with a slight delay. You pretty much never end up overheating that way. You might get "hot" when you're plowing the face off a fresh stalker or atlas - but otherwise, it's almost too easy to face off against anything 1v1 with this mech/build. It takes a solid beating for it's size and if you're running with seismic and target info gathering, you just wait for the infighting to start and rake in the kills and damage by weaving in and out hitting side torsos and backs. Only problem is that I don't know if I like this one better or Garth's 3M :)
     
  9. tfun90

    tfun90 Advanced Member

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    Thoughts on the variant after taking it basic to mastery:

    It's worth putting arm armor on (10+) as it catches many bullets.
    Capitolize on being a low priority target - throw your DPS behind friendly pushes like a 4P when possible.
    Use your mobility to keep lights off heavier mech's backs. Let the big guys focus on the engagement, not the harassment.
    Be a scalpel - rotate through targets, hunt and disable/kill cored enemies who rotate out.
    Harass - hit the back of the enemy formation.


    Personal variants:

    Speed demon variant (runs with jenners):


    Brawler variant (more arm armor for shields and DHS for sustained engagements):


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  10. Blagg Zear

    Blagg Zear Star Lord

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    Here is my Variant with XL330 (from the DS) for even more Speed. It's based on tfun90's Variant, only going for more speed than armor.



    With the Speed Upgrade this build makes real good sense. :cool:
     
  11. Thiak

    Thiak Well-Known Member

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    i took a similar approach, 1 less DHS, but instead of XL330 i took a 320 and added an AMS

    better defensive, only 2% Cool. Eff. loss and a little bit more armor

     
  12. Ronin Turkey

    Ronin Turkey New Member

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    I've been doing pretty well in this build the last couple of days. I have a lot of room for improvement, but I've had a couple great games.

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  13. Jacob Ling

    Jacob Ling Benefactor

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    Does Garth even play still after leaving PGI? This was a pretty fearsome jack of all trades back in the day and I still use it on occasion.
     
  14. The Verge

    The Verge Moderator Staff Member

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    doubtful, PGI let him go without a good cause.
     
  15. tfun90

    tfun90 Advanced Member

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    This build fell behind the MPLas 2B as a brawler, whether the 2B is using MLas or MPLas.
     
  16. Vundar

    Vundar Well-Known Member

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    It has less firepower, speed, and inferior hit boxes when compared with most Firestarter builds. It's my least favourite Cicada by far. Unfortunately this one seems to bring nothing unique or hugely useful to the table.
     
  17. The Verge

    The Verge Moderator Staff Member

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    5/5,
    In case you didn't notice, this is the best build for the CDA-2A. o7 Garth Erlam, wherever you may be.
     
  18. enileph

    enileph Star Lord

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    I perfer my DHS to be on something with more armor, they are too flimsy on the arms, mind as well use those tonnage to boost speed.

    But yeah, Thanks Garth Erlam, if you are still playing.


    Took my old 2A out for a ride after selling the free one. (I am keeping that engine)
    This is still fun to play with. (didn't use the applejack paintjob though, they need to have an apple decal/beautymark for it to be applejeck, right?)
     
  19. dranozir

    dranozir MechSpecs Addict

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    Nice build i use it with XL325 :

     
  20. Apnu

    Apnu Active Member

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    5/5,
    Great build, still works in the KDK and Oxide meta of today, June 2016. I wanted to go really fast, so here's a variation with a XL 340 that I've been running.

     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2016

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